Mike Cope's blog

Thursday, February 03, 2005

Please pray for us today as we return to Cook's to see the pediatric neurosurgeon and the pediatric orthopedic surgeon. I have a great digital photo from last night I'd like to post, but I forgot to ask everyone's permission. It's a picture of the six children who survived the rollover. With three wheelchairs (Jon Weston, Amara, and Chris C.), it was a bit hard to squeeze them together, but they managed. Thanks for your prayers for our group as we got together for the first time. So many of our thoughts were about our dear friend Julie (the driver), who is still hospitalized in Lubbock and about the Bourlands. - - - - Time magazine has released their list of "The 25 Most Influential Evangelicals": Rick Warren, Howard and Roberta Ahmanson, Diane Knippers, James Dobson, Michael Gerson, Richard John Neuhaus, T. D. Jakes, Billy and Franklin Graham, Joyce Meyer, Rick Santorum, Luis Cortes, Tim and Beverly LaHaye, Charles Colson, Douglas Coe, J. I Packer, David Barton, Mark Noll, Ralph Winter, Richard Land, Stephen Strang, Ted Haggard, Stuart Epperson, Bill Hybels, Brian McLaren, and Jay Sekulow. A few comments. First, does anyone else count more than 25? I guess you only count for 1/2 if you're part of a husband/wife or father/son team. (But shouldn't Billy Graham count for 5?!) Second, did anyone else have to say a time or two, "Who in the world is that?" Third, thankfully some of the familiar lunatics were left off. And finally, how can such a list not include Jimmy Carter, Jim Wallis, and Tony Campolo? But then it's Time's list and not mine. Who else might you have included?

29 Comments:

  • James and Barbara Hallmark
    Doug Roysden (Wylie Christian)

    TD Jakes (big enough for 2 entries)

    By Blogger Smute, at 2/03/2005 05:35:00 AM  

  • I'd have omitted a few from that list -- but then, I guess "influence" doesn't always have to be positive...

    I'd want to put Phillip Yancey on it -- or the Yancey/Brand duo. And definitely Tony Campolo. I guess, too, that they wanted to limit it to those currently (or corporeally) living, otherwise I don't see how Watchman Nee could be elipsed.

    Plus, "evangelical" is such a nebulous term. There are some who are great influential Christian leaders who wouldn't consider themselves part of the "evangelical movement." But this is just me, grumbling, because Time somehow neglected to call me first to have me a) approve the list title and b) also ratify those included. Grevious oversight, but one we'll all just have to live with... ^_~

    By Blogger Q, at 2/03/2005 05:57:00 AM  

  • Where is Beth Moore? Where is Pastor Cho? Where is Dallas Willard and Richard Foster? Where is Donald MCGavaran? Where is what's her face Meyer who has a TV show and a million books out? Where my mom for crying out loud? She's been pretty influential :-)

    The group has my prayers.

    By Blogger Fajita, at 2/03/2005 06:18:00 AM  

  • I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall, to hear the conversation, as well as have been a part of the heartfelt emotion that I am sure took place at your home last night with those very special individuals last night. Thank you for your continued updates, my prayers will continue to be with all the families.

    I did find myself asking "Who is that?" as I read through the Time list. I was somewhat surprised not to see Max Lucado or Andy Stanley on the list. But then, I am sure others would have said "Who is that?"

    Blessings.

    By Blogger Donald Philip Simpson, at 2/03/2005 06:24:00 AM  

  • I would also add Max Lucado and Andy Stanley, as well as John Ortberg.

    And what about Ned Flanders?

    Jeff

    By Blogger Jeff Slater, at 2/03/2005 07:07:00 AM  

  • Perhaps even Time mag. recognizes Jimmy Carter for what he really is...

    By Blogger Mark, at 2/03/2005 07:20:00 AM  

  • I'm blown away that Max Lucado isn't there. Christianity Today named him as Billy Graham's successor! I guess it just goes to show--he needs to increase his output to 15-20 new books per year if he wanst any real recognition! Quit slacking, Lucado!

    By Blogger Greg Brooks, at 2/03/2005 07:49:00 AM  

  • I'm not sure what Jimmy Carter "really is," but somehow I'm more comfortable with his evangelical influence than I am with James Dobson's of late.

    But that's just me.

    By Blogger Terry Austin, at 2/03/2005 08:21:00 AM  

  • Beth Moore? Nooooooooo!

    *sigh*

    She's the best as far as "women's curricula" -- but she's not the best it COULD be.

    This is where I trudge off mumbling 'bout the absolute lack of solid, interesting material out there for women.

    By Blogger Q, at 2/03/2005 08:27:00 AM  

  • Brian McLaren on next year's list, maybe? Or is he too out there for most evangelicals?
    Jim Wallis and Max Lucado really got snubbed, didn't they. They are for sure two of the most influential, especially in the last year or so.
    I have thought of a short list of my own, though many evangelicals may not agree. The list would include my parents, Dr. Kent Smith, Michael Frost and Robert Hirsch (authors, The Shaping of Things to Come), Randy Harris, Stanley Shipp, and Landon Saunders, among others. If influential is defined simply as how many books a person has out, then maybe we need to re-think that definition. Lots of folks are writing about some pretty peripheral issues these days...

    By Blogger Steve Jr., at 2/03/2005 09:06:00 AM  

  • Like you, there are a few I had to say: "Who?" I would definitely add Max Lucado to the list. Interesting that it's only "individuals" as opposed to a church body (ie: Willow Creek, Mosaic))... which in many cases has been more influential than any specific individual. Just a different thought or take on it. Blessings! sd

    By Blogger SkipD, at 2/03/2005 10:11:00 AM  

  • Mike,
    I will be praying for your family today, as I have been every day since the accident. I can imagine there was an overwhelming emotion when the children gathered, and quite a sense that there was a hole in the circle. I am trying to imagine what it will be like when you, Diane and Chris return to Highland. Somehow, I think we will have a long line waiting to hug all of you and see for ourselves that you are still here. Even though we are blessed with such wonderful men who can step up to the pulpit, we still need your family. Jack Reese did such an excellent job last Sunday of bringing us to the table. May God continue to surround you with angels as you walk this long journey. Patsy

    By Blogger P Watson, at 2/03/2005 10:49:00 AM  

  • I felt a great sense of comfort seeing Brian McLaren made the list. I think we are missing something when names like John Eldredge, Len Sweet, Larry Crabb, Brennan Manning and the like are left out. As a South African I would have loved seeing Bishop Desmond Tutu in that group.

    By Blogger Arlene Kasselman, at 2/03/2005 11:19:00 AM  

  • In the city of Atlanta, you couldn't make such a list without including Andy Stanley, Louis Giglio, and Wellington Boone. Some Atlantans might include Eddie Long and Creflo Dollar, too. But the truly most influential evangelicals in THIS town are more likely to be John Smoltz, Terry Pendleton, Jeff Foxworthy and Evander Holyfield! And not ONE of them on the list!

    By Blogger Matt Elliott, at 2/03/2005 11:46:00 AM  

  • Q, I put Beth Moore in my most influential list not because hse is most right, or even best, but because she influences so many women...and men.

    By Blogger Fajita, at 2/03/2005 11:55:00 AM  

  • Praise God for the reunion! Can't wait to see the picture.

    As for influential evangelicals? It depends on the criteria I guess. The people who have influenced me the past couple of years are YOU, Beth Moore, Elizabeth George, John & Stasi Eldredge, Max Lucado, and Mike Yaconelli. I wonder how TIME decided who to include?

    By Blogger Niki, at 2/03/2005 11:58:00 AM  

  • Did any of you see them on Larry King the other night? He had Brian McLaren, T.D. Jakes, Tim and Beverly LaHaye, and Franklin Graham. I think that is all he had on. Weird interview.
    Julie

    By Blogger julie, at 2/03/2005 12:02:00 PM  

  • I also was surprised that Carter, Campolo and Lucado didn't make it. I also thought that John Edlridge (Sacred Romance, Wild at Heart) might make it on.

    By Blogger Jared Cramer, at 2/03/2005 12:33:00 PM  

  • Amen to Joel Q's comment. When will scholarly women like Barbara Brown Taylor be recognized? The committee must have been all men.

    By Blogger judy thomas, at 2/03/2005 01:23:00 PM  

  • Ned Flanders has my vote. Remember when his wife went on a church retreat to "learn how to be more judgmental?"

    On a side note -- sorry to get off topic -- but I must take issue with the person named Smute who is posting here. I want to make it known that I, and only I, am the original Smute. See the 2/2/05 post on my blog for a complete explanation.

    By Blogger Deana Nall, at 2/03/2005 01:59:00 PM  

  • Just read that Ned Flanders has a choice role in this Sunday's episode. Seems he and Homer plan the Super Bowl halftime show.

    Tell me THAT'S not influential...

    :)

    By Blogger Terry Austin, at 2/03/2005 02:11:00 PM  

  • i agree with tony campolo for sure...
    and...

    where is MIKE COPE?!

    By Blogger tine, at 2/03/2005 06:21:00 PM  

  • Deana, you are the one the only original Queen Smute, except for the two little princess Smutes.

    By Blogger Smute, at 2/04/2005 12:43:00 AM  

  • Tell Chris i'm continuing to pray for him. Mike i put a link to your blog on mine (hope you don't mine. Look at the numbers Max is pulling in with the Michael W. and Third Day worship tours...God is reaching mega souls through Max...

    Hey Tell Chris if he wants a wheelchair race, i'm game...

    oh, yeah if you want me to speak or encourage the one who in the accident just let me know...

    peace.

    By Blogger Todd Lollar, at 2/04/2005 01:29:00 AM  

  • Mike Yaconelli the gentlemen with the vision of bringing youth pastors together for support, encouragement and equipping. All you had to do was attend one of the YS conferences and see 5,000 youth leaders get together to understand his influence and passion. Probably the most cross denominational and international experience within Christendom.

    By Blogger happytheman, at 2/04/2005 07:01:00 AM  

  • So, Mike, what about Steve Farrar, Jack Hayford, Bill McCartney, Tony Evans, to name a few? They've sure influenced my life.

    Thanks, again, for the updates, my friend, and realize that your family and the other families involved are not forgotten. We still grieve with you in Searcy.

    Okay, so Chris cannot play baseball, but I have an idea, circa 1985. How 'bout you and I take Chris to the 6th game of the World Series involving the St. Louis Cardinals? We can get the same seats--no fear of beer being poured down our backs. And maybe--just maybe--the umpires will get the call correct this year that would give the deciding victory to the Cards!

    Love you, man!

    Zac Muncy for my family and my mom

    By Blogger Zac Muncy, at 2/04/2005 02:15:00 PM  

  • We have been praying at North Boulevard CHurch of Christ in Murfreesboro, Tennessee for your church family. Chris Perkins is the grandson of one our deacons and we were happy to see the picture of the reunion group. We will continue to pray for physical as well as spiritual heaking.

    By Blogger Lewis Webb, at 2/05/2005 06:49:00 PM  

  • Max Lucado
    Hank Hanegraaff
    Philip Yancey
    Joel Osteen

    And where's Cope?

    By Blogger Big Mike Lewis, at 2/06/2005 10:04:00 PM  

  • And what about Mel Gibson?

    By Blogger Big Mike Lewis, at 2/06/2005 10:06:00 PM  

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