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Thursday, October 06, 2005

See many of you in Nashville. The Zoe Leadership Conference begins today, and the Worship Conference begins tomorrow night as we focus on the incarnation. I'm looking forward to coteaching at the leadership conf with my buddy Randy Harris. And I can't wait for many of you to experience Friday evening the art work of Jill Maxwell and the drama gifts of Donna Hester, two Highland pals who will be part of the opening assembly. I'm trying to think why I didn't include a "blogging track" for the conference class times. - - - - I like these words of Mark Driscoll: "I want to prepare like an evangelical; preach like a Pentecostal; pray like a mystic; do the spiritual disciplines like a Desert Father; art like a Catholic; and social justice like a liberal." - - - - Come on, Angels! Joe Hays and I have a bet going: If the Yankees win, he gets to write a praise of the Yankees on this blog; if they lose, I get to give them what true Evil deserves on his blog.


  • One game to one game. I'll take Johnson over Byrd on Friday night in Yankee Stadium.

    Have fun in Nashville. We lament not being able to go this year.

    By Blogger jch, at 10/06/2005 04:16:00 AM  

  • I'm counting on games four and five. We'll miss you and Laura at Zoe. Blessings on your kids. Still anxious to hear a "get-to-go-home" date for Ira.

    By Blogger Mike, at 10/06/2005 04:39:00 AM  

  • Come on, folks...there are more important things than Yankees/Angels and the ZOE Conference...

    Like the Braves/Astros series!!! Come on, this is the series that matters. This has to be the Braves' year, it just has to...Houston must be vanquished, St. Louis must be vanquished, and some random American League team must be vanquished. Braves Nation needs this championship...

    By Blogger Greg Kendall-Ball, at 10/06/2005 07:24:00 AM  

  • Mike, Craig has been on cloud 9 for several months now in anticipation of this weekend with you and Zoe and everybody else. Kinda like I am as the Pepperdine lectures draw closer. :)

    May God bless your time together, and I wish I was there!


    By Blogger David U, at 10/06/2005 07:28:00 AM  

  • Just this once, let the Astros win. My 5-year-old cried herself to sleep last year when they lost. You should have seen the tears welling up in her big, blue eyes as she clutched her Astros teddy bear...

    By Blogger Deana Nall, at 10/06/2005 07:38:00 AM  

  • Blessings to all of those attending the ZOE Conference. Those of us who have to (sob) work will be in prayer.

    Lackey looked good last night. The Angels finally gave me something to cheer about. And, contrary to popular belief, Randy Johnson CAN be hit.

    Boo Braves. Enough already. At 14 straight years I'm starting to ha...er...dislike them as much as the Yankees.

    By Blogger Thurman8er, at 10/06/2005 07:46:00 AM  

  • My Pentecostal, New York Yankee fan, and a native New Jersey boy husband thanks all of you...and says just watch!

    By Blogger Hoots Musings, at 10/06/2005 08:06:00 AM  

  • ...and blog like a postmodern.

    There is a small blogging track on Saturday morning at 7:30 AM at the Zoe internet cafe for people crazy enough to be there that early.

    By Blogger Fajita, at 10/06/2005 09:55:00 AM  

  • And, contrary to popular belief, Randy Johnson CAN be hit.

    How true, Thurman, how true! My lowly Padres have knocked out of post season contention more than once.

    btw-y'all that want St. Louis vanquished, look to the lowly Padres tonight and when we get home to Petco Park!! We've done it before and we're [I believe] the only post-season team to have a winning record against them this year.


    YEAH!!! PADRES!!! YEAH!!!

    [If nothing else, we Padre fans are more than loyal. LOL]

    Mike have a 'to be envied' worship and fellowship time at the Zoe Conference. We'll try to miss you. With Dr. Taylor preaching Sunday, it might be a struggle. ;) Just kidding, of course. :o)

    By Blogger Kathy, at 10/06/2005 09:59:00 AM  

  • Rather I should pursue personal morality like a redeemed sinner. Efforts at “social justice” are doomed to fail, doing far more harm than good. Those who embrace the small “g” gov (government) will end up rejecting the capital “G” God. (Medved’s line)
    A pursuit of “social justice” will inevitably place you in opposition to God. It is not wise to try to change the ground rules that he has set. It’s much better to develop individual habits of justice and mercy.

    By Blogger c hand, at 10/06/2005 01:40:00 PM  

  • Have a great weekend at Zoe. I would love to be a that one.

    Isn't worship just our natural response to seeing God as he truly is? Maybe we just need to learn to see him more clearly. Any ideas on how to do that?

    By Blogger Paul, at 10/07/2005 03:49:00 AM  

  • c hand, I must say, I find your comments amazing.

    The Lord Almighty could have used your counsel when he set up the government of his people in Israel. The whole notion of Jubilee would be set aside by your wise counsel. And Jesus would have been spared the cross it seems to me had he followed your advice. His entire ministry embraced the Jubilee paradigm (Luke 4). He died because he offended the religious leaders of his day who had sold out to the oppressive government. Sound familiar???

    The first Christian community surely got the point (Act 2, 4).

    What an opportunity we have, under this constitutional democracy--a government based on the notion of "We the people" being us--to craft a more just society. Why would anyone who follows Jesus reject that chance to build a society that offered everyone an equal chance at a fuller life?

    I really believe Jesus could have avoided death had he taken your advice to "pursue personal morality" rather than more comprehensive justice in community.

    How seeking justice could in anyway betray God's heart is incomprehensible to me. Have you read Amos?

    When I read things like your post, I wonder what you are afraid of. If you think that God is a laizze faire capitalist, you need to re-read the Bible.

    The radical individualism back of your political theory is most distressing to me.

    By Blogger Larry James, at 10/08/2005 12:44:00 PM  

  • What about preparing, preaching, praying, doing the spiritual disciplines, art, and social justice like - gasp! - a Christian?

    Or have we embraced the fragmented system too much to think that way anymore?

    By Blogger X, at 10/13/2005 02:20:00 PM  

  • Larry James said... "Why would anyone who follows Jesus reject that chance to build a society that offered everyone an equal chance at a fuller life?"

    We don't. Neither did the Christians who founded America. They built it and you're living in it.

    The issue isn't whether God is a capitalist or a socialist--He's neither. The issue is what works. Socialism doesn't and socialist ideologies have led to misery, starvation, and suffering for untold millions throughout its ugly history.

    Capitalism isn't perfect and it needs to be tempered with Christian ethics and the rule of law -- but you can't argue with results. The poorest of the poor in the United States are fabulously wealthy by world standards, even if only for the opportunities they have here.

    What breaks my heart is the bone-chilling oppression and starvation overseas, in places like North Korea. That country is committing a slow and painful auto-genocide.

    Compared to the real suffering of the poor and oppressed around the world, every American is blessed far beyond what any of us fallen sinners *deserve*. Nearly 75% of poor households in America own a car; 30% own two or more. 97% have a color television; over half own two or more. 25% have cell phones. More info here (PDF).

    Many of us believe that the combination of the vibrant American economy, the government's social safety net, and private charity does an excellent job--the best in the world. We don't think that negates our obligations, quite the opposite. Our private giving cannot be delegated to the government.

    We shouldn't be branded unchristian or admonished to re-read our Bibles just because we've come to these conclusions.

    The socialism behind your political theory is more distressing to me. Which has caused more suffering in the world? Collectivist ideologies or individualist ones? It's not even close.

    By Blogger extremist, at 10/15/2005 09:26:00 AM  

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